Yep! Everyone loves a close bond between two guys causing some hilarious squabbles and jests, as well as a protective nature embedded in them both!
But what happens when it crosses over into the celeb world?
Yes everybody, I'm talking about the cast (and I did a bunch of analyzing so I hope you're happy.)...oh good Lord, what have I come to?Actually, I know. It's because of a rising anger in me about one "Bromance"
Chris Evans and Sebastian Stan.
(Alarms go off and people everywhere start screaming)
OK! OK! KNOCK IT OFF! LET ME VALIDATE MY POINT!
I'm on Pintrest, and everyone always raves about Evans and Stan's bromance...and I don't see it. What I see are people projecting the characters they play on the actors! Let me explain.
They may have a good relationship, sure. Friends? Quite possibly! But "Best Bromance?" NO.
Here, I'll show you a true bromance.
Wanna know who it is? Evans is just there for plot convenience.
Sebastian Stan and Anthony Mackie.
Look at this picture. This should explain it all.
He doesn't lean towards Evans, its like he's trying to be closer to Mackie then anyone else, it's also seen in some other instances as well.
Still don't belive me?
In intervews Evans is the main focus most of the time, so more often than not their joking around in the background and whispering things causing the other to laugh or roll their eyes at the other...or just be plain surprised!
We also see him being more comfortable with Mackie than any of his other Marvel Co-stars.
He often comes off as more reserved than his other co-stars during group interviews (other than Paul Bettany. Who is hilarious by the way!)...despite getting sassy during an interview where he wasn't asked a question until the end...which prompted him to go, "oh yeah! Hi!"
But around Mackie he seems to light up and burst into full out crazy mode...going as far as to do wild arm motions, nearly hitting Mackie (le epic dodge happened), when describing how Falcon would fly if he fogged up his glasses.
Plus he even started singing...and getting so excited he started to talk into his water bottle.
Mackie is Mackie to everyone...he's friendly and a ball of fun, so touching on how Mackie acts would be kind of a lost cause...that guy has countless energy and happiness radiating from him.
(Which is funny and furthers my "Sam Wilson Is Best Superhero!" Thing.)
Another thing is how they joke about each others accents. They both try their best to do impressions of the other while keeping a straight face, Mackie often uses a British accent when he tries to copy Stan, and Stan...I don't even know what it is. Jamaican possibly? I have no ide-!...wait...crud.
Refrain yourself....refrain yourself....
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| I'm sorry...I couldn't help it. |
Something also of note is that in an interview they were asked, "what's the question that you've been wanting to ask each other?"
Then Stan says, and looks genuinely confused and hurt while saying it, "why don't you look at me anymore? Whenever I talk and I glance at you, you're always looking forwards." To which Mackie replies; "they told me not to."
Also, one question they were asked is; "who could you see yourself hanging out with years from now." Automatically they pointed at each other and started cracking up.
Need more evidence? (Seriously? If you do you must be blind.)
During everyone of his solo interviews he mentions Mackie without being prompted or anything related to Mackie. He just talks about him and says that his voice is in his head when he does most interviews without him.
They have nicknames as well; "chocolatecheno" (I think that's how it's spelled) and "vanilla ice" They gave those nicknames to each other, also there's another set..."Mackattack" and...um..."'Something' Sea Bass" I don't know how that started and I'm still trying to figure out who started calling the other by the name first.
Also, they revealed that they HAVE KARAOKE NIGHTS TOGETHER. I find this incredibly amusing...and also the fact that Mackie's favorite song to sing is "I like big butts and I cannot lie" which caused some giggles from the interviewer and Stan.
(I would laugh too honestly. I can see Falcon singing that for some reason, even though I only know the chorus...because of billboards and my mom.)
What more could you want?
If you seriously want more evidence, watch some of their interviews. I can't possibly put every single moment on here.
But, of course, the psycho EvanStan and Stucky...(good lord, sometimes I hate Pintrest...people are crazy shipping real people. 0-0) have to go on a rampant about their friendship. Take this rabid fan girl on the comment sections of YouTube...I censored some words and I changed the names to initials...in order to keep it private.
But I'm using this as a prime example.
CB
I don't like Anthony cause he never lets Sebastian or anyone talk. I do like Anthony because he says the sweetest things about Sebastian. I'm conflicted.
2 weeks ago•4
CB
+J I wasn't talking about alpha omega dynamics, I hate those fics with a vengeance! I just meant that CE comes across as very dominant/assertive and Sebastian tends to take a back seat in his presence. Nothing wrong with that.
5 days ago•
J
+CB You know how offensive this sounds?? Stop putting them on a box, also this is not a alpha/omega fanfic, there's no alpha, or beta or whatever. Evans acts, the same way Sebatian and Mackie act: Joking around. All of them make a lot of jokes and act all excited like a bunch of puppies. "They look like husband and wife" They really ******* don't, there you go again with the labelling them and put Evans as the dominant/husband and Sebastian as submissive/wife (both are not connected in any way). But think before you say it, you clearly don't know Sebastian nor do you know Evans, neither I do and I don't pretend I do, but project fanfic traits on them to please you is very wrong. Legit the whole thing you said so far is stuff I read for years now that people say Bucky is: Submissive, waiting for Steve's orders. But Sebastian is not Bucky and Evans is not Steve. Their friendship is special and they should be respected as people and not be put in a box so careless like that.
1 week ago•2
CB
+J I must admit I don't know much about CE and his 'softer' Disney side. I've only seen him in interaction with Sebastian and there CE always strikes me as extremely alpha with Sebastian his adoring pet. Of course I know Sebastian is nobody's pet. I'm just talking about the first thing that springs to mind when you see them together. I don't know why some people get upset about what I wrote, everybody's thinking it. When my mom saw a clip of them sitting together the first thing she said was 'they look like husband and wife'
1 week ago•
J
+CB Do you even read what you say before posting it? This is literally you projecting things into Sebastian, projecting he acts like he somehow is behind Evans and has to ask permission and wait for things and Evans is this version of super masculinity that doesn't exist. Chris talked how he loves Disney and disney princesses, how he cries easily, how his anxiety affects him and how he relies on people to it. Do you think about it? Because he isn't only this one thing, the big and hyper masculine type. He is sensible and so is Sebastian in his own way, he is caring and he likes to joke around and you're using it to try to make him out to be something he is not and you do not know him to say stuff like this and then throws the "it's 2016" while you're trying to put him in this one box, like he belongs there and only there. And you see him with Mackie, and he is funnier and dirtier and you're scandalized and you literally have a lot of comments trying to make their friendship that both clearly appreciates seem like is ugly and wrong. Stop projecting your fantasies on Sebastian, he is not the Fanfic!Bucky you're reading, he is a person that deserves more than someone in the internet put a label on him.
1 week ago•3
SNYC
+CB you're insane. I didn't say anything about what he does is shameful. you're creating drama when he's laughing with Mackie. You're creating imaginary problems based on what you think you know. It's creepy.
1 week ago•2
CB
+SNYC I DON'T think he's a wimp, but he's definitely a beta. And I find that soo refreshing compared to the testosterone volcano that is Chris Evans. It's 2016, views on masculinity have changed a bit. I think it's perfectly for a guy to be soft and sweet like Sebastian. Why do you think it's something shameful? And I don't think he's ashamed of it either,. Otherwise he wouldn't be making puppy faces all the time or pose with teddy bears in photo shoots. He knows what works for him and he's not trying to be like Chris and I love him for it.
1 week ago•
SNYC
Um, no, only insane Sebastian fans like you "see" this kind of thing. I've never seen Mackie or Evans belittle or degrade Sebastian, but you sure are doing a good job of it. You just completely emasculated him, calling him a beta and wimp who can't stand up to others. With fans like you, he doesn't need any haters.
1 week ago (edited)•2
CB
+SNYC I'm not infantilising anyone. Fact is, Sebastian is about 100 times less assertive than Chris & Mackie and thus has a tendency to let them take over. I've seen a panel where Mackie barely let him get a word in and kept pulling faces when Seb finally got to answer a question. Me in his place I'd have elbowed him in the face but all Seb said was "Really? do you need the attention that badly?". And in Chris's presence Sebastian gets even more beta, even looking at him for permission to talk. Don't act like you haven't seen that. Everybody has.
1 week ago•
SNYC
Both! Stop treating Sebastian like he's a helpless child AND stop treating Anthony like he's some bully that Sebastian can't check or ignore if wanted to. There's nothing on this video that indicates either one has a problem. You're projecting a problem onto their interactions based on what you think you know, but don't know Sebastian to be able to say what you said.
1 week ago•2
SNYC
+CB You Stucky/Sebastian fans are ridiculous. You don't know this guy. He's a grown man, and he's very open and clear when he doesn't like something (see his comments on Snyder). You guys infantilize him and make him into this helpless man-child. It's insulting. He and Mackie obviously get along but you insist on projecting your ******** on your fandom ideas of who he is. It's so ******** creepy.
1 week ago•2
CB
+SiSu I'm confused. Why does this upset you so? Is it Mackie you're defending or Sebastian?
2 weeks ago•
SiSu
+CB That's just it, C.
Sebastian is NOT a lost puppy! And until he expresses concern with his relationship with Anthony or Chris, it's unfair for you to characterize them as being rude/mean to him in any capacity. You actually do not know any of them. You didn't film three movies with them. You didn't go on the press tour with them. You are inventing a crisis where one does not exist. Sebastian is not a lost puppy, he's a grown man who can handle himself. That is exactly the attitude that is annoying. And I know you'll just keep defending it, so let's end here, because you obviously can't see how you and the Sebastian/Bucky fandom trip way too hard over **** like this.
2 weeks ago•3
CB
+SiSu Yes, they're grown men who don't need our protection. But Sebastian does exude a certain vulnerability and Anthony or Chris absolutely don't. Nobody ever calls Anthony a 'lost puppy', do they? And with that comes of course the urge from his fans to be protective over him and for movie goers to sympathize with Bucky. And in real life I often got the impression Sebastian was treated like a Cinderella by the more famous/A-lister step sisters Chris and Anthony. He always had to sit in the back, was never allowed to talk and they even mocked his accent behind his back. So yeah, I'm sensitive!
2 weeks ago•1
SiSu
+CB I don't think so. There are plenty of fandoms who don't disparage people or praise people dependent on what they imagine that person's relationship with their idol to be like. Also, considering Mackie and Stan should technically share a fandom (as part of the MCU and Team Cap), it's even more disheartening to see Bucky/Sebastian fans talk like this. Trust me, I know there are a lot of fans with questionable behaviors and attitudes in the MCU fandom in general. I've just had so much cringe at Bucky/Sebastian fans, lately. First, when there was so much hatred for Black Panther because he was fighting Bucky in that clip (and Bucky fans called it "abusive" of all things O_O.) I just think you guys don't realize that Sebastian Stan is a grown adult man, or that Bucky Barnes is a literal assassin who kicked the s*** out of Captain America in CA:TWS (admittedly because Cap wouldn't fight back, but still.) Neither of them need this kind of blind, ravenous protection. Plus, like, IDK, it's superhero content. You can't stan him (no pun intended) the way you would a pop star? He's supposed to get in fights? And Sebastian is a grown man with bro-y friends? So, of course they treat each other the way they do in this video? I'm not saying you have to like Anthony, but it's weird to qualify your opinion of him entirely based off of how you perceive his relationship with Sebastian. (Especially because they seem to be great friends, and that's kind of unfair to Sebastian, and to Anthony.)
2 weeks ago•3
CB
+SiSu Doesn't that apply to every fandom?
2 weeks ago•
SiSu
+CB Not to be rude, but comments like this are why the Bucky/Sebastian fandom bothers me. It's like your whole opinion of Anthony is related to Sebastian, and I don't get that. I like Sebastian and I like Bucky, but both the character and the actor are grown men who don't need your help or protection.
2 weeks ago•8
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CB
+J Just saw some new interviews of them together. They do seem to be getting along better now. I still had that Philly comic con panel on my mind where Sebastian couldn't get a word in.
4 days ago•
ACG
So thats the issue for this whole convo....making assumptions...Now one one side I do agree that Mackie is very talkative and at times is immature. I have seen interviews were he literally takes over the entire convo and no one gets to talk and for me that is annoying. I guess he is excited and doesn't realize that he is doing it but we should give him the benefit of the doubt. Plus he makes interviews a h**** lot more entertaining that the typical boring interviews that we see stars have. He is a breath of fresh air, a sentiment that most if not all of the cast mates have of him
4 days ago•
J
+CB It's hilarious how you pretend you don't get a joke, they banter and they ALL do it, the moment Sebastian tells Anthony he loves him you think he is being sarcastic but the moment they are all joking you take it seriously. Just admit you want Sebastian to hate Anthony, because the only thing I see is you going around posting a bunch of comments try to make their friendship seem like less. Sebastian himself said how his and Anthony's relationship has really come around, >>Sebastian<< talked about the good times they had. This is what happens when you work and spend a good amount of time with someone and they know each other for years. if you want to think Sebastian despises Anthony be my guest but won't ******* chance they have a great time together and Sebastian literally laughs all the time when he is with Anthony, you'd see that if you weren't playing blind so you can fool yourself thinking Sebastian has bad feelings towards Anthony. :)
5 days ago•
JM
+CB wow, you're bat **** crazy.
5 days ago•1
CB
+J I don't think they hate each other, but I did get the impression Sebastian was at times irritated by Mackie constantly putting himself on the foreground. But now that they're supposed to show the world how tight teamcap is, he has to bite his tongue. On a recent panel he got sarcastic "I know Anthony, it's not about you", but then he immediately corrected himself by hugging him.
5 days ago•
CB
+ACG Really? Sorry, my mistake. I always assume that any banter from Sebastian is aimed at Mackie.
5 days ago•
ACG
+CB He was referring to Paul Rudd not Anthony
5 days ago•
J
+CB Is this supposed to mean anything? Are you going to continue to ignore Sebastian said Anthony is so special, and how he is a great energy to be around and how fun is to having him around??? Are you going to ignore how Sebastian obviously thinks of Anthony as a friend? Seriously why are you so pressed about them being friends? What is wrong with it?? If you don't like Mackie is one thing, but because you hate him doesn't mean Sebastian does because he clearly likes him and his company.
1 week ago•2
CB
+J "We tried to swap Anthony for Black Widow" Quote from Sebastian in 2016 Jimmy Kimmel.
1 week ago•
J
+CB Girl, you're so ******* pathetic going around trying to prove Sebastian hates Anthony and quoting shit from 2014 when they barely knew each other, do you know what a JOKE is? Sebastian joked about not liking him but he talked how he has a good time with Mackie and he is a good person to be around and how special he is. Get the **** away with your rude ****.
1 week ago•3
CB
+R "I'm so glad we didn't have any scenes together" Quote from Sebastian in a 2014 comic con panel.
1 week ago•
Yeah...lovely huh?
So, this was my bromance post. If you still don't believe me, check out these pictures and video!. (Which the ice bucket challenge was hilarious and the fact they had plush toys of themselves made it all the more funnier)
Now, if you'll excuse me I'm going to go reevaluate my life.
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